What makes the "roll" ?
Hello everyone, hope you're doing great by this new year !
My today's weird technical question is about what we call the lapel "roll". To give a brief definition, it is the fact that the base of the lapel is not pressed against the body of the coat but is rolling far from the coat front. I tried to achieve this look found on many south-east Asian jacket (South Korea, Taiwan).
Example from "assisibespokehouse" instagram :


I have several ideas about the subject on which you maybe have some opinion :
First, in the book "Tailoring Suits, the professional way" by Clarence Poulin (available on this site), it is drawn and write, page 90, that the "roll" is achieved by "wide" stitches. Is it correct according to you or are small stitches a better way to achieved this "rolled" look ?
Second, should the sewing stitches be loose or tight ? On a fitting stage jacket I made some very wide and loose padding stitches and it achieved a very rolled look, but it was with a baste thread on a try-on jacket so is this the clever way to get the "roll" or a misconception ?
Third, the vast majority of the time we sew this "rolled" look on unbuttoned jacket, so there is the question, is a "rolled" look is possible on buttoned jacket or even a very "rolled" lapel style jacket when button looks like every other ?
Thanks a lot for your times and answers !
Georges Duroy


Thank you very much for all the explanation, I will probably soon make a try with bias oriented body canvas, I hope it will give me such great result !